It derives from a system founded on a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself. However, the impact of this book could be far greater without things like calling Benedict “our little queenie” or making observances without any hint of proof. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. Childhood memories and annual traditions. But the more a prelate is homophobic, the … None of these statistics has found its way into In The Closet Of The Vatican. —Somos una de las bibliotecas más antiguas y más ricas del mundo. Nobody should seriously expect clergy to be entirely faultless. For a long time young Italians, who discovered that they were homosexual, chose the priesthood. Let us know what’s wrong with this preview of, Published The sex workers tell him that their priestly clientele divide into two classes: the lordly ones, who treat them like dirt and pay very badly, and the younger ones, tortured by tenderness, who fall in love with them and are carefully cultivated for their money. It's the hypocrisy that he rails against. While the subject was interesting, the repetition drove me crazy and I just gave up. Since Martel does not seem to want to out living clergymen, he settles for innuendo (at times strenuous) when it comes to them. To be sure, there is a great issue within the Church. Elsewhere in Europe there are fewer gay sex workers on the streets, he says, but in Rome they still thrive, in part because of the concentration of priests, who seek out migrants for the anonymity their encounters offer. Well consider this passage from p. 112 of the book: In the Closest of the Vatican is an extraordinary look behind the scenes of the Vatican, where Martel discovers that homosexuality, particular at the top, is the norm. Although the book’s publishers have kept it under tight wraps, I obtained a copy in advance of its release next Thursday. Some of his points are interesting, there is no doubt there is much truth in his research but the style adopted just grated with me. Besides the excellent and exhaustive research - I could have done with a bit less of it - it’s Poorly written, terribly translated, repetitive, disorganized, and somewhat arrogant in a very French way. So, what do I mean? All of these aspects have been well hidden and, to a great extent, remain so to this day. Many of his most vivid informants are veiled in anonymity: one cardinal is referred to by the nickname of a famous prostitute, and so on. But then I didn’t waste nearly so much of my life as Mr. Martel has in writing this unfortunate piece of gossip, scandal, speculation and opinion. The resulting schizophrenia in the Church is hard to fathom. Refresh and try again. But then I didn’t waste nearly so much of my life as Mr. Martel has in writing this unfortunate piece of gossip, scandal, speculation and opinion. Free with your Audible trial: Hardcover "Please retry" CDN$ 38.15 . There's a lot of explanation marks, lazily repeated statements, constant amazement that homosexuals may exist in the Church hierarchy, plenty of dinner dates and lots about the conservatives versus liberal politics of the old guard and the new Pope. They'll say it's made up. Some of it is mind-boggling - for example the luxurious lifestyles of some of the princes of the church, much of it is distressing - but there are also heart-warming stories; it is far from a hatchet job. This is what happens when religion goes against nature. The Pope’s former chief Latinist estimates that about 80% of the Vatican staff could be gay. The gay and honest Dominican father James Allison once said that the Vatican is “a honeycomb of closets” where everyone’s secrets are known, but only to a few. Who is, was, might be gay? But the more a prelate is homophobic, the … Unfortunately an important subject (homosexuality in the clergy of the catholic Church) is treated by Martel in a blathering, gossipy way. It derives from a system founded on a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself. In the Closet of the Vatican is a book that reveals these secrets and penetrates this enigma. Is this a well-researched book that will be referenced for years or a tabloid expose of homosexuality in the Catholic Church? Available for everyone, funded by readers. In this place of make-believe, guilt and constant innuendo the prelates live in a tension between the dreadful fear of being outed and the loneliness of not being recognised for who and what they are. Time spent with an old friend. Based on hundred of prelatial interviews, the author probes the ironic agenda of this gay higher clergy--hatred of gay people and opposition to their rights! En la biblioteca se conservan religiosamente los códices del Vaticano, libros antiguos, papiros inestimables, incunables y un ejemplar en vitela de la Biblia de Gutenberg. This book was interesting but I seriously wonder how true it was. It derives from a system founded on a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself. When will my book be dispatched from your warehouse? I wanted this book to be more interesting than it is. In The Closet Of The Vatican, is an exposé on life in the Vatican, notably its alleged gay culture and the hypocrisy that stems from its sinful inhabitants teaching others how they should live their lives. I found this book most informative and revealing, not only because of the candor of the interviewees, but also because of the historical perspective the author brings to this work. If, as Fr Jim says, a tenth of this is true-and most likely is, it is a terrible shame. The book is most moving, and hardest to read, when Martel details the exploitation and damage that this hypocrisy wreaks; the undocumented immigrants working as trafficked sex workers near the Vatican who have full rosters of cleri. In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy: Frederic Martel, John Banks, Audible Studios: Amazon.fr: Livres In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy … In the Closet of the Vatican is a book that reveals these secrets and penetrates this enigma. In the Closet of the Vatican is a book that reveals these secrets and penetrates this enigma. In The Closet Of The Vatican, is an exposé on life in the Vatican, notably its alleged gay culture and the hypocrisy that stems from its sinful inhabitants teaching others how they should live their lives. But with Martel’s book, In The Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy, which appeared simultaneously in eight languages two months ago, new dimensions of Vatican nefariousness are laid bare, dimensions that will undoubtedly draw considerable media attention because of its abundance of salacious details. Perhaps it is interesting, but the writing is far less than stellar. Martel quotes the estimate of the pope’s former chief Latinist that up to 80% of the Vatican staff could be gay even if obviously most of them are buttoned up. And why was there no index? This is a must read book for any Catholic or ex-Catholic about the tragedy befalling their religion. Book Title: In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy. In the Closet of the Vatican is a book that reveals these secrets and penetrates this enigma. This book sets a high-water mark in investigative journalism. There doesn’t appear to be anyone who is simply conservative or centre-right. “Por suerte, en Francia se cree más en la poesía que en la religión.”, “Jean-Louis Bruguès ha dirigido durante mucho tiempo la célebre Biblioteca Apostólica Vaticana y los no menos célebres Archivos Secretos. So, here we have author and journalist, Frédéric Martel, himself gay, a liberal, élite, atheist, writing about the heart of the Catholic Church. It is also interesting to note that when a particular member of the Vatican’s hierarchy says something that the Church has been teaching for 2000 years, or perhaps says he is against same-sex marriage, that person is described as far right or ultra-conservative. This intellectualisation carried over, disastrously, into the celibate clergy’s instructions to the married laity on birth control. © 2021 Guardian News & Media Limited or its affiliated companies. In a less than flattering article for the New York Times by gay journalist, Frank Bruni, headed New exposé on homosexuality in the Vatican is silly, offensive and potentially dangerous, that journalist cites a statement by James Martin, S.J. Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read. It is the FEAR OF DISCOVERY that pushes these men into the deep (and not so deep) closet, and that fear turns them into very defensive public homophobes. So they out each other instead, compulsively. Sodoma : Enquête au cœur du Vatican est un livre de Frédéric Martel, édité en français chez Robert Laffont [1] et sorti simultanément en huit langues en février 2019 [2], [3].L'ouvrage est publié sous le titre In the Closet of The Vatican [2] en anglais et en portugais. If you have an interest in these issues, I highly recommend this book. All institutions operate on loyalty and fear of scandal, but beyond those factors the Catholic church is full of men who feel neuralgic, he claims, about guilty secrets. At first blush it seems like a lurid exposé—a gossipy romp through the hallowed halls of the Vatican in which a self-described atheist names names and ‘outs’ various gay cardinals, bishops, and monsignori. I think Fr James Martin’s review on this text is the wisest. In the Closet of the Vatican, the author reveals the secrets and penetrates. The take-home message, exhaustively backed up with examples, is that sexual hypocrisy and self-deception makes the Church a breeding ground for many other kinds of abuses, from pedophilia to financial scandals. Be the first to ask a question about In the Closet of the Vatican. To order a copy go to guardianbookshop.com. In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy (French: Sodoma : Enquête au cœur du Vatican) is a book by Frédéric Martel, which was published in French by Éditions Robert Laffont in February 2019 as well as being simultaneously released in eight languages. It is based on the double lives of priests and on extreme homophobia. It derives from a system founded on a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself. A comforting balm. As a result, the book comes across as vague and boring. The author claims to have interviewed dozens of cardinals, bishops and other clergy but I doubt that many of them would have submitted to an interview. It derives from a system founded on a clerical culture of secrecy which starts in junior seminaries and continues right up to the Vatican itself. One of the most impressive, and saddening, parts of Martel’s research is his exploration of the world of migrant sex workers in Rome. EDITORIAL: A new tell-all book from a French journalist is a distraction from the real problems the Church needs to deal with. The author has condensed 4 years of serious investigation into these well-researched pages. There are not many books I regret wasting time and money on as much as I regret this one. Take New Book on Vatican ‘Sodom’ With a Pillar of Salt . They are, after all, in their clerical life standing in Jesus’ sandals, spreading the gospel and administering sacraments. In The Closet Of The Vatican, is an exposé on life in the Vatican, notably its alleged gay culture and the hypocrisy that stems from its sinful inhabitants teaching others how they should live their lives. Between this, the seemingly endless sex abuse scandal, the recently revealed guidelines for priests who father children, it seems like the church is long overdue for a serious moral self-reckoning. He claims to have recordings of most of his interviews: one certainly wants to hear the moment when a prominent conservative cardinal’s assistant refers to him as “elle”. I'm irritated by the multiple reviews or commentaries on the book that are choosing to dismiss it because it is based on "gossip" or Martel's testimony of his gaydar; while Martel makes a few glancing references to his own perceptions of someone's behavior, the simple fact is that this book is based on hundreds of interviews, many of them on the record, with Church clergy. The problem is that if you tell the truth about the 'closet and the special friendships in the Vatican, people won't believe you. From 2001 to 2005 he was cultural attaché for the French embassy in the US. Despite his profession and an impressive … Most of the men cited were identified only by their initials, and the sender himself hoped to remain anonymous. The author and/or his associates conducted interviews with 1,500 people at the Vatican and in 30 countries including: 41 cardinals; 52 bishops and monsignori; and 45 apo. After being project manager for the French Embassy in Romania (1990–1992) and the French ministry of culture (1992); and being advisor to the former Prime Minister Michel Rocard (1993–1994), he served the Minister of Labor and Social Affairs, deputy-Prime minister Martine Aubry, as. In fact it's great that some part of society enabled gay people to feel safe. The author and/or his associates conducted interviews with 1,500 people at the Vatican and in 30 countries including: 41 cardinals; 52 bishops and monsignori; and 45 apostolic nuncios. This book is the result of a lengthy four-year investigation in Italy and in over 30 countries — a total of 1,500 personal interviews were held (more details are provided in the Acknowledgement section found at the end of the book). 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